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==Expand All/Collapse All Buttons==
== Furniture Collection Counts at Each Major Update ==
Is it possible to add an expand all and collapse all button? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 18:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
<!--Does anyone happen to have a record of what the displayed totals were for each universe of furniture at/before each major update? Or at least, the overall total count of furniture in the Furniture  Collection? As we eke out last lingering items, it might be helpful for us to help pin down which version they were introduced if we had these numbers.
:I'm not sure - let me do some investigating. There's still a bit of tweaking these tables need (like making them work better for mobile) -- [[User:Marblemadmax|Marblemadmax]] ([[User talk:Marblemadmax|talk]]) 11:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
 
==Non-Disney Furniture Counts by Version==
 
I've been trying to solve the puzzle of the item counts in the non-disney section, and this is my current working theory:
*Version 1.0 (441)-->1.1.5 (464) (+23)
**5 crafted
**6 store (beige/black/white rose/wheel gothic windows)
**6 star path items
**6 special tasks items - these items were allocated in the Furniture Collection count, but not actually tracked until 1.2 (possibly a bug in implementing Special Tasks for first time?)
*Version 1.1.5 (464)-->1.1.5 (480) (+16)
**4 crafted
**1 crafted/pickup (campfire)
**2 star path
**2 special task
**7 store (5 gift boxes, 2 rugs)
*Version 1.2 (480)-->1.3 (505) (+25)
**3 crafted
**1 crafted/quest (stage)
**1 pouch (modern partition shelf)
**14 store (calathea in basket x3, orchid in pot x3, philodendron in pot x5, mini-saguaro in pot x3) (known)
**6 unknown
 
I know it seems weird, but I kind of think that the "basic" dressers (black/dark wood/medium wood/pale wood/white) were added in 1.3, and then there's 1 remaining unknown item added in 1.3 (and 1 lingering unknown item from 1.0 that has no semi-sure speculated item). Once 1.3 released, the dressers were actually reported kind of quickly (well, 2 of them anyway), so it seems weird to me that they would have been missed over 4-5 months of gameplay.
 
Alternately, say instead that all of the basic dressers WERE accounted for since 1.0 - then that means there's 4 items categorized as 1.0 that are actually 1.3 (assuming that the other unknown is also added in 1.3). Even the speculated items notwithstanding, I just couldn't see a grouping of any 4 items, or even 4 individual items, that hadn't been encountered and confirmed prior to the latest update.
 
I could be totally wrong, but wanted to summarize my findings! [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 21:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 
 
Update 2023.04.02 - Now that White-Base Glass Desk has been confirmed, Black-Base Glass Desk likely also exists, and they were likely both introduced in 1.0. I previously thought we were looking for 1 1.0 unknown item and 1 1.3 unknown item. This means that by my counts, there is now 1 item allocated to 1.0 which should be allocated to 1.3. Although it's inconsistent with how this game typically seems to do things (for example, we've realized that items like Scar's friendship rewards were added to the collection counts in 1.0, although they weren't obtainable until 1.1.5), the only item I can think of that might be relevant is Wooden Lamppost with Blue Light - an item which has been in the game since 1.0, but wasn't made attainable until a recipe change in 1.3. Just my current thoughts. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 16:39, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 
== Sword in the Stone Furniture Count ==
 
From 1.0 to 1.1.5, the count went from 10 to 11. The relevant item is currently unknown. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 19:28, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 
Looking back at the [[https://dreamlightvalleywiki.com/index.php?title=Furniture&oldid=13023#cite_ref-nottracked_1-0|furniture page]] from shortly before 1.1.5, it looks like the item was likely Bag of Tricks? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 23:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 
== Speculated Items ==
 
The general rule of the wiki is not to add any pages or references to items that haven't been confirmed to exist through actual gameplay. However, there are a number of items (mostly Non-Disney-Related/General, more "boring" items) that haven't been reported that are suspected to exist. In case it is useful to anyone (or we could use this space to gain confirmation of items), below is the list that I'm aware of:
 
{|class='wikitable sortable'
!Type
!Universe
!Item Name
!Primary Category
 
|-
| Furniture || Toy Story || Wicker Toy Basket/Chest? (1.3 addition) || Storage
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || Black-Base Glass Desk || Tables
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || Lavish Coral Pink L Couch || Seating
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || White Couch || Seating
|-
| Flooring || Other || Dark Cork Flooring || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || Dark Rough Plank Floor || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || Pale Rough Stone Tile Floor || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || White Terrazzo Flooring || Flooring
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Black Concrete Wallpaper || Wallpaper
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Black Perforated Concrete Wall || Wallpaper
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Medium Wood Shoji Screen Wallpaper? || Wallpaper
|}


If you're a visual person, here's a table format of the Other items which clearly shows missing items: [[User_talk:Lizz/Furniture_Checklist|Other Furniture Set Images]]
This is what I *think* they are/were, by the information I have available: [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC) -->
 
[[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Last update: [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 15:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 
== Universe Furniture Counts at each update? ==
 
Does anyone happen to have a record of what the displayed totals were for each universe of furniture at/before each major update? Or at least, the overall total count of furniture in the Furniture  Collection? As we eke out last lingering items, it might be helpful for us to help pin down which version they were introduced if we had these numbers.
 
This is what I *think* they are/were, by the information I have available:


{|class='wikitable sortable'
{|class='wikitable sortable'
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!1.6
!1.6
!1.7
!1.7
!1.8
|-
|-
| Mickey & Friends || 72 || 74 || 83 || 95 || 95 ||100 || 100 ||  
| Mickey & Friends || 72 || 74 || 83 || 95 || 95 ||100 || 100 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Disney || - || - || - || 6 || 16 || 17 || 17 ||  
| Disney || - || - || - || 6 || 16 || 17 || 17 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| The Sword in the Stone || 10 || 11 || 11 || 19 || 19 || 23 || 23 ||  
| The Sword in the Stone || 10 || 11 || 11 || 19 || 19 || 23 || 23 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Dreamlight Valley || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 2 ||  
| Dreamlight Valley || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 1 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| WALL-E || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 40 || 40 ||  
| WALL-E || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 35 || 40 || 40 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Moana || 34 || 34 || 34 || 37 || 37 || 44 || 44 ||  
| Moana || 34 || 34 || 34 || 37 || 37 || 44 || 44 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Ratatouille || 31 || 31 || 32 || 32 || 32 ||33 || 33 ||  
| Ratatouille || 31 || 31 || 32 || 32 || 32 ||33 || 33 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Sleeping Beauty [Clothing] || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || - || - || - ||  
| Sleeping Beauty [Clothing] || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || - || - || - || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Beauty and the Beast || 43 || 43 || 43 || 43 || 43 || 47 || 47 ||  
| Beauty and the Beast || 43 || 43 || 43 || 43 || 43 || 47 || 47 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Wreck-It Ralph || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 47 || 55 ||  
| Wreck-It Ralph || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 47 || 55 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Cinderella || 37 || 37 || 38 || 38 || 38 || 58 || 58 ||  
| Cinderella || 37 || 37 || 38 || 38 || 38 || 58 || 58 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| The Lion King || 23 || 24 || 24 || 25 || 32 || 33 || 33 ||  
| The Lion King || 23 || 24 || 24 || 25 || 32 || 33 || 33 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| The Little Mermaid || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 43 || 43 ||  
| The Little Mermaid || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 39 || 43 || 43 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Frozen || 50 || 50 || 53 || 66 || 68 || 72 || 72 ||  
| Frozen || 50 || 50 || 53 || 66 || 68 || 72 || 72 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Tangled || 20 || 20 || 20 || 28 || 35 ||35 || 35 ||  
| Tangled || 20 || 20 || 20 || 28 || 35 ||35 || 35 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Monsters, Inc. || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 ||  
| Monsters, Inc. || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || 26 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Toy Story || 27 || 27 || 32 || 33 || 47 || 55 || 55 ||  
| Toy Story || 27 || 27 || 32 || 33 || 47 || 55 || 55 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Lilo & Stitch || 35 || 35 || 40 || 40 || 47 || 62 || 62 ||  
| Lilo & Stitch || 35 || 35 || 40 || 40 || 47 || 62 || 62 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Ancient Civilization || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 ||  
| Ancient Civilization || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 || 0 ||  
|-
|-
| The Incredibles || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 ||  
| The Incredibles || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Hercules || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||  
| Hercules || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Coco || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 ||
| Coco || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 || 3 ||? ||  
|-
|-
| Cars || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 ||
| Cars || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Lightyear || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 ||
| Lightyear || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Up || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 ||
| Up || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Sleeping Beauty || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||  
| Sleeping Beauty || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Snow White || - || 1 || 1 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 ||
| Snow White || - || 1 || 1 || 2 || 2 || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Encanto || - || - || - || 13 || 13 || 18 || 18 ||
| Encanto || - || - || - || 13 || 13 || 18 || 18 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Princess and the Frog || - || - || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 ||
| Princess and the Frog || - || - || - || 1 || 1 || 1 || 1 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Finding Nemo || - || - || - || - || - || 1 || 1 ||  
| Finding Nemo || - || - || - || - || - || 1 || 1 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Turning Red || - || - || - || - || - || 5 || 5 ||
| Turning Red || - || - || - || - || - || 5 || 5 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Inside Out || - || - || - || - || - || 2 || 2 ||
| Inside Out || - || - || - || - || - || 2 || 2 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Elemental || - || - || - || - || - || 3 || 3 ||
| Elemental || - || - || - || - || - || 3 || 3 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Big Hero 6 || - || - || - || - || - || 4 || 4 ||
| Big Hero 6 || - || - || - || - || - || 4 || 4 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| Non-Disney-Related || 441 || 464 || 480 || 505 || 555 || 775 || 779 ||  
| Non-Disney-Related || 441 || 464 || 480 || 505 || 555 || 775 || 779 || ? ||  
|-
|-
| '''Total''' || 973 || 1004 || 1044 || 1136 || 1232 || 1560 || 1573 ||
| '''Total''' || 973 || 1004 || 1044 || 1136 || 1232 || 1560 || 1573 || ? ||  
|}
|}
[[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:57, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
Last update: [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 12:30, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Last update: [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 12:30, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


==Page Save Performance Issues==
Frequently when I make changes on the page, the action takes a long time to complete after pressing "save changes" and then appears to fail ("This page isn’t working. dreamlightvalleywiki.com is currently unable to handle this request. HTTP ERROR 500"). However, when I reload the page, my changes have often (but not always) taken effect, and a history log can be viewed on the Collection page itself. However, it doesn't appear that a history log appears on the Recent Changes page for the wiki overall. Perhaps fewer images should be pulled in? Or the larger collections, like Furniture and Clothing, need to be split onto separate pages? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 20:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Update 2023.03.31: Earlier today as per a discord discussion I removed the bulk of the name templates for clothing and furniture items. For the first time in a long while, saving the page doesn't bring me to the 500 page (although it is still pretty sluggish) - it returns me to the Collections page, and the change appears on the wiki's Recent Changes page, as expected. Performance is still probably too slow to direct much traffic to this page. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 23:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)


== Clothing Collection Counts at Each Major Update ==
== Clothing Collection Counts at Each Major Update ==
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Unclear when and how a few of these universe order listings changed. Rearranged Sword in Stone and Disney, Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
Unclear when and how a few of these universe order listings changed. Rearranged Sword in Stone and Disney, Sleeping Beauty and Beauty and the Beast [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:28, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
== Sword in the Stone Furniture Count ==
From 1.0 to 1.1.5, the count went from 10 to 11. The relevant item is currently unknown. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 19:28, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
Looking back at the [[https://dreamlightvalleywiki.com/index.php?title=Furniture&oldid=13023#cite_ref-nottracked_1-0|furniture page]] from shortly before 1.1.5, it looks like the item was likely Bag of Tricks? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 23:18, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
==Expand All/Collapse All Buttons==
Is it possible to add an expand all and collapse all button? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 18:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
:I'm not sure - let me do some investigating. There's still a bit of tweaking these tables need (like making them work better for mobile) -- [[User:Marblemadmax|Marblemadmax]] ([[User talk:Marblemadmax|talk]]) 11:36, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
==Page Save Performance Issues==
Frequently when I make changes on the page, the action takes a long time to complete after pressing "save changes" and then appears to fail ("This page isn’t working. dreamlightvalleywiki.com is currently unable to handle this request. HTTP ERROR 500"). However, when I reload the page, my changes have often (but not always) taken effect, and a history log can be viewed on the Collection page itself. However, it doesn't appear that a history log appears on the Recent Changes page for the wiki overall. Perhaps fewer images should be pulled in? Or the larger collections, like Furniture and Clothing, need to be split onto separate pages? [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 20:30, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
Update 2023.03.31: Earlier today as per a discord discussion I removed the bulk of the name templates for clothing and furniture items. For the first time in a long while, saving the page doesn't bring me to the 500 page (although it is still pretty sluggish) - it returns me to the Collections page, and the change appears on the wiki's Recent Changes page, as expected. Performance is still probably too slow to direct much traffic to this page. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 23:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
== Archived ==
Outdated conversations are commented out below.
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== Speculated Items ==
The general rule of the wiki is not to add any pages or references to items that haven't been confirmed to exist through actual gameplay. However, there are a number of items (mostly Non-Disney-Related/General, more "boring" items) that haven't been reported that are suspected to exist. In case it is useful to anyone (or we could use this space to gain confirmation of items), below is the list that I'm aware of:
{|class='wikitable sortable'
!Type
!Universe
!Item Name
!Primary Category
|-
| Furniture || Toy Story || Wicker Toy Basket/Chest? (1.3 addition) || Storage
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || Black-Base Glass Desk || Tables
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || Lavish Coral Pink L Couch (confirmed) || Seating
|-
| Furniture || Non-Disney-Related || White Couch (confirmed) || Seating
|-
| Flooring || Other || Dark Cork Flooring || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || Dark Rough Plank Floor || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || Pale Rough Stone Tile Floor || Flooring
|-
| Flooring || Other || White Terrazzo Flooring || Flooring
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Black Concrete Wallpaper || Wallpaper
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Black Perforated Concrete Wall || Wallpaper
|-
| Wallpaper || Other || Medium Wood Shoji Screen Wallpaper? || Wallpaper
|}
If you're a visual person, here's a table format of the Other items which clearly shows missing items: [[User_talk:Lizz/Furniture_Checklist|Other Furniture Set Images]]
[[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 17:28, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
Last update: [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 15:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
==Non-Disney Furniture Counts by Version==
I've been trying to solve the puzzle of the item counts in the non-disney section, and this is my current working theory:
*Version 1.0 (441)->1.1.5 (464) (+23)
**5 crafted
**6 store (beige/black/white rose/wheel gothic windows)
**6 star path items
**6 special tasks items - these items were allocated in the Furniture Collection count, but not actually tracked until 1.2 (possibly a bug in implementing Special Tasks for first time?)
*Version 1.1.5 (464)->1.1.5 (480) (+16)
**4 crafted
**1 crafted/pickup (campfire)
**2 star path
**2 special task
**7 store (5 gift boxes, 2 rugs)
*Version 1.2 (480)->1.3 (505) (+25)
**3 crafted
**1 crafted/quest (stage)
**1 pouch (modern partition shelf)
**14 store (calathea in basket x3, orchid in pot x3, philodendron in pot x5, mini-saguaro in pot x3) (known)
**6 unknown
I know it seems weird, but I kind of think that the "basic" dressers (black/dark wood/medium wood/pale wood/white) were added in 1.3, and then there's 1 remaining unknown item added in 1.3 (and 1 lingering unknown item from 1.0 that has no semi-sure speculated item). Once 1.3 released, the dressers were actually reported kind of quickly (well, 2 of them anyway), so it seems weird to me that they would have been missed over 4-5 months of gameplay.
Alternately, say instead that all of the basic dressers WERE accounted for since 1.0 - then that means there's 4 items categorized as 1.0 that are actually 1.3 (assuming that the other unknown is also added in 1.3). Even the speculated items notwithstanding, I just couldn't see a grouping of any 4 items, or even 4 individual items, that hadn't been encountered and confirmed prior to the latest update.
I could be totally wrong, but wanted to summarize my findings! [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 21:23, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Update 2023.04.02 - Now that White-Base Glass Desk has been confirmed, Black-Base Glass Desk likely also exists, and they were likely both introduced in 1.0. I previously thought we were looking for 1 1.0 unknown item and 1 1.3 unknown item. This means that by my counts, there is now 1 item allocated to 1.0 which should be allocated to 1.3. Although it's inconsistent with how this game typically seems to do things (for example, we've realized that items like Scar's friendship rewards were added to the collection counts in 1.0, although they weren't obtainable until 1.1.5), the only item I can think of that might be relevant is Wooden Lamppost with Blue Light - an item which has been in the game since 1.0, but wasn't made attainable until a recipe change in 1.3. Just my current thoughts. [[User:Lizz|Lizz]] ([[User talk:Lizz|talk]]) 16:39, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
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